Spit or Swallow

I do like Guinness, I have to say, because you feel like you’re eating something. But then, as a result, I moved on to wine. Basically, I like the taste of it. And I’m not that kind, I’m never good at—you know, they’ll go, “Oh. [Sniffs.] I smell shale.” Who smells shale? They can get 16 flavors out of something. If somebody tells me something, then I smell it or taste it. But I really just like the wine that I like. I feel like less of an alcoholic.